Where are you steering your ship
Category: Integrity & Godly Character
Key Passage: James 3
Speaker: Paul Chisgar
Date: December 22, 2023
For the title, for the internet, would be, “Where Are You Steering Your Ship?” But I really have two desires, things that I would love for the Lord to accomplish. I thought about, even before we started the service, just having us sing, “You’re All on the Altar. I Surrender All.” Some of one of those songs.
Because I’d love for us, me too, right before mission conference. Now, Wednesday night, we’ll have a Bible study, as far as I know. We’ll continue the life of Moses. So in some ways, it’s our last service before we set the direction to get thoroughly, just thoroughly right with the Lord before mission conference. We are about to set the…
…hold what we can and cannot do for missions for the year. Maybe hundreds, maybe thousands of lives are in the balance so we can do more to help missionaries get the gospel around the world. And I mean that literally. I mentioned this morning about a little Filipino child, and I just was grabbing for what country. But once I said that, I thought about one of our best missionaries. We work with Global Church Planters, and we work through a guy named Rick Martin, been there for about 30 years in the Philippines, running a Bible college for over 30 years. Just God’s put his hand on probably one of, if not the greatest missionaries of our time today. Just a great missionary.
And he’ll have people graduate, young men graduate out of his Bible college, and we’ll support them when they go start churches at $100 a month, and that’s their full support. That’s all they need in the Philippines. And they’ve got a year, and they’ll start a church within a year in a village out in the Philippines, the middle of nowhere. And we fully support that. I don’t know how many churches we’ve started in the Philippines through that.
So I’m just trying to say the magnitude of this thing. Our money goes pretty good there in the Philippines. I love it that we’ve—I don’t know how many—we’ve had a part in, I should say. God did it, but we had a little part financially. We supported that church. So I just say the importance of it. I long for us, me too, to get thoroughly right with the Lord before we enter the mission conference. It’s just key.
I hope that we just seek that. Invitation time, maybe we’ll mention that again. Let’s just try to do that. The thing with that is, we tend to think, “I’m good.” But after you spend time seeking the Lord, seeking the Lord, is there something between me and you? Really seek that, and that’s when God begins to show things up.
I spent some time this afternoon in my office just saying, “Lord, I need to get thoroughly right.” The Lord brought some things up that I never thought about. I needed that, but still need that. So let’s just kind of take tonight; I’m going to go a certain direction, and I believe the Lord wants us to, and it’s narrower. But the broad thing, let’s just seek to be right with the Lord tonight and just have the Lord lead you.
Let’s just seek that. Let’s just do our best to get thoroughly right with the Lord, especially now, but especially invitation time. Lord, we want to be right. We want you to be able to flow and work in our church. That’s just key. Not what we can do—we can’t do much enough, nothing without him. We want what he can do. So that’s one desire; that’s really kind of my heartbeat tonight. But I felt like the Lord wanted us to narrow it down.
We went this way, I don’t know how many times over the years, but I felt like the Lord kind of wants to just touch on this subject tonight over here in James 3 because it’s crucial. It is just crucial. If you’re going to be and stay right with the Lord, this subject here is just vital. It’s just key. And James 3, many of you already know where we’re going just because of the chapter. It’s often called the tongue chapter. And James chapter number three—praise the Lord, it is James. It’s not John tonight. Amen. So chapter number three, we’re going to start. We’ll start in verse number two. Would you please stand tonight? We’ll read a couple of verses just to get us going. James three and verse number two.
And he says, “Therefore, in many things we offend all.” He says we all offend people sometimes, if you will. None of us are perfect in this thing. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man. That doesn’t mean without sin. That means God’s been able to work the problems out of his life, and he’s mature, and God’s been able to perfect him, mend the flaws in his life, and able also to bridle the whole body. Now that’s amazing. In other words, you get the tongue right, and God says, “I can get your whole body right.” The tongue—the importance of the tongue. He keeps going. He says, “Behold, we put bits in horses’ mouths that they may obey us, and we turn about their whole body. Behold, also the ships, which though they be so great and are driven of fierce winds, are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member and boasteth great things. Behold how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. So is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and it setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.”
For every kind of beast and of birds and of serpents and of things in the sea is tamed and hath been tamed of mankind. But the tongue can no man tame. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father, and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Let the fountain send forth out of the same place sweet water and bitter. Can the fig tree, my brother, bear olive berries? Either a vine, figs? So can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Well, let’s just stop right there. Let’s go to the Lord in a word of prayer. And we’ll take a little time tonight and just try to focus on this. Lord, would you use it? I believe this is the way you want us to go. Lord, help me to get to the point and get after what you want, but then leave off what you don’t want covered. Lord, the big thing, we’d like to be right with you. And Lord, let that desire you put that in us—would you just let that permeate us tonight? Lord, help us to desire in a great way to be right with you. Lord, specifically in this area of our tongues, Lord, just grow us tonight. We’ll thank you for what you do. By the way, I ask for this in the name of Jesus, we pray. Amen. Thank you so much for standing. You may be seated.
Early this morning, I was looking out the window of my office at the house, and I looked out there. Our dog, I’d already let her out. She was barking at something, and sure enough, I looked out there, and there was a horse in my front yard. They are not ours. There are two horses behind us, but they wander. The man had a stroke a while back. He’s in a nursing home, and so the fences are getting broken down. We try to repair them here and there for them, but they can’t keep up on their horses. Sure enough, the horse was out again this morning. The horses know now that Dixie can only go so far because she’s got that shock collar on her. So they’re just like, Dixie runs and barks at them, and she has to stop because of that collar. They’re like, they don’t even lift their head at her anymore. They’re like, “Yeah, whatever.”
These horses—have you ever gotten close to a horse? Man, they’re massive. The horse in our front yard was a younger horse. Beautiful, beautiful horse. I don’t know what type; Miss Cotor could probably tell you what kind. She knows horses pretty good, but I don’t know. Just a big, beautiful horse. I’ll pet them from time to time. They’ve been coming in our yard so much here lately that Miss Tammy and Sarah have been feeding them carrots, and we wonder why they come to our yard. But even they’ve been saying, “Man, those things are massive. They’re strong.” Have you ever tried to get their head and just hold it still unless you get their nose? They’re strong, man. You get their nose, they’re sensitive; they don’t like that. But they’re just powerful, massive muscles. It’s strong.
And the Bible says that massive muscle-bound animal, it’s got all this power, you can control it with a little bitty bit. Just a tiny little bitty bit you put in their mouth, and you make that horse go left if you want to go left. You make it go right if you want to go right. You can let loose, and they’ll go forward; you can stop at any time you pull. Some of them are well trained; they can make them go back. They’ll start beeping, they’ll go in reverse. All that from just a little bit.
Then he talks about ships. I mean, these ships nowadays—this one here is talking about back in the day when you think of big old sails, like pirate ships. But in our day and time, these massive ships, just huge. I used to work at a Florida shipyard, and they would have these big ships come in. I can’t remember the name they called them, but they would load these ships up with tanks and armored cars and all this—just pack them full of all kind of military equipment. And then if there’s trouble in the world, they would send these ships over there, and they would just kind of be off the coast of that region. They’d sit out there for six months a year, whatever, just in case something happened. They had all the equipment ready to go. And I’m talking about massive ships. If you had to go work on one of those ships, you got to walk down the dock and get on there and go down wherever it is, engine room, wherever. And you want to make sure you have all your tools because you know how it is: you get all the way down there, and you forgot that one stinking tool. You know what I’m talking about? And you got to walk all the way back. It seemed like about twenty miles, though it wasn’t. These things are massive.
Sometimes they would fill up the ballast tanks in the front, kind of make the front sink down a little bit, and they would empty out the back ones, and really it would come up back in. They can take propellers out at sea by doing that. But you see the rudders—now they’re big, but in comparison to that ship, man, they’re just so small. And the Bible there is talking about the biggest ships they had in that day and time, and it’s controlled by just, in comparison, a little bitty rudder—that massive ship. And the Bible here is saying that’s the way our tongues are.
Your tongue, my tongue—our lives are steered. It’s turned. It’s channeled. It goes that way because of our tongue. If you want your ship in a happy harbor, you get it there by your tongue. If you want your ship in Depression Alley, you get it there by your tongue. If you want it in just down the dumps, doomsday, you spend all your time talking about the down and the dumps things. Our tongue is just so vital; it’s so crucial. I wonder if we could wear invisible lapel mics and Brother Patrick could record what we say all week long. Somebody says, “Man, erase that, delete that right there. We don’t want anybody to hear that.” But, friend, according to God’s word, that’s always right: we are where we are because of what we say all week long. Maybe we say, “Why am I depressed? Why can’t I get on top of things?” Well, because of what you’ve been saying all week long. Because we’ve been steering our ships that way. Our tongue is the rudder.
I hope you want that. It is vital. The Bible over in Ephesians 5 talks about us, husbands loving our wives, and it talks about the washing of the water by the word. You will wash your marriage of problems and headaches and turmoil, and no sweetness there. You need more by washing it with your words than just about anything. I want a happy marriage, all right. How’s your tongue? You see somebody with a good marriage, a happy marriage? I guarantee you, just about all the time, you see that man is using his words to show his wife love.
Ladies, if you say, “I wish we had a sweet marriage,” if you find a marriage where that husband adores that wife, you’re going to find, more often than not, you’re going to find a wife that is wise. You know, Proverbs 31. Can I just read for you one verse out of Proverbs 31:26? “She openeth her mouth with wisdom.” Now, it doesn’t even say there that out of her mouth comes wisdom; it’s not what it says. It says she openeth her mouth with wisdom. So when she talks and when she doesn’t talk is determined by wisdom. And watch the rest of this verse: “She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.” It’s a law. There’s a law in your tongue, a law of kindness. It’s a law. I’m simply saying, man, if you want a happy marriage, happy relationships—probably more than just about anything, of course, Jesus Christ—but your tongue is vital. It’s the rudder. And I want to be happy; I want to be on top side, but if your tongue is not going that way, you’re fighting against yourself.
Look at verse number six. Let’s get a couple thoughts here real quickly. Verse number six. He says, “Even so the tongue…” Are you with me out there? “Even so the tongue is a little member and boasteth great things. Behold how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity; so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and it setteth on fire the course of nature, and it is set on fire of hell.”
It just starts with a little bitty spark. My family—my two brothers and my sister—and Mom having surgery, so Monday we got together, and the family did. We were reminiscing, talking about how many times us boys caught the woods on fire behind the house back in the day. Unfortunately, the fire department was called in at least one time. We lived in Chattanooga at this point, and you know some of those old furnaces—we lived in the trailer behind Indian Springs Baptist Church—and the pilot light would go out all the time. So Dad would roll up a newspaper, and when the pilot light didn’t work, he’d stick that long roll-up newspaper way down into the furnace, and then you’d hear, “Poof!” and the furnace lit up. Some of you men have been in those old days. Then, there’s a back door right there; it’d be open, and Dad would take that newspaper out and just throw it out the back door. Well, us kids had pine needles and leaves and everything. We were pouncing on it, going to make us a little fire, and we were just ready for it. We had wonderful times playing with fire. Brother Anthony Misket says, “Thanks a lot, preacher. You’re probably going to get our house burnt down. You’re leading our kids astray.”
But it’s amazing, just a little bit of fire. Brother Adam sent me a link to a pastor up north, in Ohio, I believe it is. Unfortunately, the pastor’s house just burnt down. I watched the news report. The pictures showed that the house was just a disaster, the cars and all that a disaster. One fireman said, “I knew it was going to be a rough one because when we got to the fire station across town, I could see the smoke all the way across town from that house. I knew by the time we got here, it’s going to be bad,” and it was—just demolished. They’re not exactly sure, but they say the fire started just somewhere in the garage, probably very small. My man, a little fire, and it spreads all over. And the Bible says that’s exactly how our tongues are.
I forget a lady who called and said, “Pastor, I think I may have said something so mean, so hateful that I don’t know if my marriage can ever recover from it.” I thought, well, there might be some valid points; they could recover, but there might be some scars forever from what she said. Wars are started just from what people say. I think a man was talking about his pastor in another state; he said, “My pastor was on fire, ready to go. And he met with another pastor, one of these higher-ups. And he said, somehow that other pastor just spun my pastor’s head, and he never really was on fire about winning souls after that,” and the church kind of got it. Our words are vital. It can burn. It just starts so small. Marriage can get cold. Why? Someone’s tongue. A lot of times we both get together, but our tongues are not… What does the Bible say? The power of the tongue—what life and death are in the power of the tongue? Our tongues. We need wise tongues.
Look what he says in verse number eight. James 3, look in verse number eight. He says, “But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.” Wow. No man—talented man, a man or a lady of character, sharp and all that, talented, successful—but they can’t tame the tongue. Now the Bible tells us twice it makes this statement: “Out of the abundance of the heart, what? The mouth is speaking.” So here’s the deal: “Well, I can’t tame the tongue.” No, because it comes from your heart. And God changes the heart. God’s the heart doctor. Matthew 15:18: “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart and they defile the man.”
So here’s what you think: “Man, I got a tongue that’s not right.” It goes deeper than the tongue; it’s because your heart’s not right. By the way, if you’re around someone long enough, what’s in their heart will come out. You just listen for it long enough; you’ll figure it out. You’ll find out where the heart is by what they say, because out of the abundance of the heart—they can put it on thick for a while, but you’re running very long, you don’t know. Out of the abundance of the heart.
The key is, “Hey, Lord, my tongue.” By the way, if you give your heart to the Lord, you let the Lord be the governor of your ship, as we were talking about earlier. Pretty soon, the Holy Spirit—he’s good at this—will speak what’s in your heart. You’re complaining all the time, you’re doing all this because your heart is not right. If I’m spending all my time complaining and moaning and groaning, something in my heart is not right. If I’m bitter, mad, and I’m just always spewing off, something in my heart is not right. If I spend my life complaining, there’s pride in my heart: “I don’t deserve this. I deserve better.”
We ought to keep up with what’s going on, but if I spend all my time talking about how bad D.C. is, I’m steering my ship in Depression Alley. It’s so important—my tongue. And it goes back to my heart. When I get my heart to the Lord, Jesus came to heal the broken heart, but he’ll use my words to show me what’s going on in my heart. Boy, you’ve got to continue to give your heart to the Lord.
Now, let’s look at the thing. We’re going to be done real soon here. You’re going to be like, “Wow, we’re getting out early. Praise the Lord.” What about that? Look at verse number four. We’ve already kind of covered this, but let’s look at it. He says, “Behold, also the ships, which, though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds…” These were talking about those ships back then; they had those big, huge sails. “…yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.”
Back then, those ships didn’t have diesel. They didn’t have these aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered. They didn’t have that back then. They had the wind. But notice he does not say those ships are turned, and the direction they go, is controlled by the wind. That’s where we’re at sometimes: we get some bad wind, so our tongue goes that way, and we go that way. But no, no, no, no. The wind doesn’t determine where your ship’s going. I’m never really sailed on a sailboat. You see these people on TV, and it’s amazing to me: the wind’s blowing this way, but they’re going that way. I’m like, “How do they do that?” I understand it all, but that rudder…
It’s so important that we understand that even though the wind is blowing that way, do not let the wind control your direction. I’m going to keep my tongue right. Somebody’s coming at you; it’s so easy to come back at them and start getting, “Well, I can fight foul with them and get…” No, no, don’t go that way. You’ll let the wind control you. You let your tongue keep you steered in the right direction. Our tongue is vital. Winds of adversity, winds of problems—they come to anybody’s life—but don’t let that control your direction. Make sure your tongue stays right in the right direction.
Let me say this: these ships—you cannot turn an aircraft carrier on a dime. They’re huge, massive. When I was working at the shipyard in Florida, we went to do some work at Newport News, Virginia. Brother Kyle used to work there for three years. Man, they have aircraft carriers there, nuclear subs there—all that is huge, one of the biggest shipyards in our country for sure. I remember we were working on a tanker, a big old tanker right beside us, with an aircraft carrier on the dock beside. Man, those things are massive; they’re like floating cities. The ships I was talking about in Florida, they brought them down the St. John’s River, where the shipyard was. We’d try to repair things, do whatever. They’re so big and massive. The St. John’s River is not big enough to turn one of those ships because you’ve got to have a lot of room to turn those massive ships. Literally, they’d have to get tugboats in there. They’d get a tugboat on the front of the ship and a tugboat on the back, and that’s the way they would turn it in those rivers because there’s not enough room.
If maybe our tongue has been in Lack of Faith Alley, it’s not going to get back into Faith Alley, believing in God Alley, boom. It’s going to take time, and don’t expect it to. But you keep your tongue going, steering your vessel in the right direction. Same thing in your marriage, same thing with your children, same thing at work. It takes time, but you keep your tongue going the right direction. The more you talk right, the more you hear that, the more it gets in your head and the midst of your heart, and then the more you talk right. But it takes time for all that. He said, “I can’t help but speak what I’ve seen and heard.” That’s part of it. It takes time to steer the ship, so important.
Isn’t it interesting? Joshua 1:8. I’ve been on James all day, haven’t I? Joshua 1:8—you know that verse. That’s that wonderful blank check: “Whatever you do shall prosper, good success.” How many of you know that? Say it with me. I’ve got it wrote down in case I mess up. Here it is. Say it with me. Here we go: “This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth, but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mightest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.” I want to make you successful. Part of it is the words of God.
If you’ve been in Slum Alley, feeding off the junk, the trash of the world—whether it be at work, complaining about the boss, the news, all the negative news, or whether it be Uncle Joe, just the negativity of the world—that’s where you’ve been putting your focus. You say, “Well, what am I going to talk about? We’ve been talking about this situation with Aunt Sally for the last three months.” We’ll talk about the Bible. Start talking about the Bible. What do you think this means? Why do you think that’s a good thing? Don’t let it depart out of your mouth. It’s so important what we’re saying, what we’re talking about with our tongue. I’m not perfect at it. I have to reset because I don’t want to be in depression. I don’t want to be… Some preachers are just old and mad at the world, and all they talk about is the problems of their people. I won’t be there. I mean, I really don’t want to be an old grouch of a preacher, but if I stand around talking about all the bad, that’s where I’m going to end up. This has been a great verse for me, a convicting verse to me.
We’re going to wind it down. Look over, if you will, in First Peter. First Peter chapter number three. I was going to show you another verse, but we won’t go there because I said we’re going to wind it down. 1 Peter 3:10. You there? Amen. He says, “For he that will love life…” I like to be there. I’m there sometimes; sometimes I’m not. If you’ve been around here for a while, you know the illustration it brings to mind—it’s illustration number 38. Some of you have been around here forever. It’s about my old dog, Sandy. Brother Anthony whispered, “Miss Gator, what the illustration is.”
I’d put Sandy in the back of the pickup truck, and we would ride down the road on Baker Road, going fast. Josh is shaking his head yes back there. Sandy just loved to ride in the back of the pickup truck. That was the delight of life. I remember looking out the side mirrors, and Sandy would go to different sides, hanging her head out a little bit. She’d get all the wind, and she’d open her mouth a little bit sometimes, and the wind would come inside, and her jaws would just—oh! She was just loving life. Even my dog Dixie, if we say something about going bye-bye, she tries to get to the truck; she wants to go to the truck. They just love it; it’s like the delight of life. When I see that “he that will love life,” I think about those dogs just loving it, man, they’re just loving life. I would like to be like that all the time.
Notice God tells us, if I’m going to love life, what’s got to happen? 1 Peter 3:10, you’re right there. “For he that will love life and see good days…” Does everything have to go his way? Does he have to be successful? No. It doesn’t tell you that if you’re going to see good days. “For he that will love life and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile.”
You’ve got to pull back, refrain. “Well, I just say what I think.” Well, sad life you’ve got there. Your ship’s going to be all over the place, and usually not in the right place, because you’re going to love life and see… You’re going to have to refrain. I think about that horse pulling back on the reins. No, I’m not going to talk about them. I’m not going to spend my time… and his lips that they speak no guile. Guile has to do with manipulation, deceiving. They might fool some people, but they won’t be happy, and they won’t love life, and they won’t see good days. If I’m going to love life and see good days, I’m going to have to pull back; I’m going to have to refrain.
If I don’t refrain my tongue, my religion is vain. Pretty amazing verse. You know what this world needs? The workplace is such a great place to witness and to make a difference in somebody’s life. But you get a Christian in the workplace, and they know because they’re around you eight, ten hours a day, and you get a Christian that’s negative and not happy. They can be like, “Whoa, dude, I don’t want anything to do with that.” But you get a Christian that’s happy and upbeat and believing in God and rejoicing and just shedding the light, and they’ll be like, “Man, they got something.” That’s the steering wheel that’s going to drive you to Happy Alley. It’s our tongue.
Would you bow your heads and close your eyes for just a bit tonight? I mentioned this at the beginning before we even started, but would you take some time during this invitation? Our tongue—oh yes, please let the Lord speak to you about that—but not just our tongue, but let’s try to do our best to get thoroughly right with the Lord. Thoroughly right. Let’s be obedient. Lord, I want to be right. I don’t want anything between my soul and the Savior. Lord, is there something not right in my heart? Do I have ill feelings towards someone? Am I being deceiving? Is my tongue not right? Am I bringing those around me down? Lord, would you show me? Would you point it out? I don’t feel close to you, Lord; there’s got to be a reason. Tell me what it is. Let’s just do real business with God tonight. Let’s seek and draw nigh unto Him. Let’s let Him search our hearts and our minds. Let’s get thoroughly right. Mission conference is right around the corner. Oh, Lord, we need your blessing on that mission conference. Let’s let the Holy Spirit go through tonight.
D.L. Moody was meeting with a group of men, and they had a prayer meeting. He said, “Men, we need to get it right.” And he confessed his sins. One man said, “I don’t know what to confess.” And D.L. Moody said, “Well, just guess at it.” And D.L. Moody said, wouldn’t you believe it? He got it right every time. Just let the Holy Spirit—He’ll speak. He’ll speak. Let’s just do our best to get thoroughly right tonight.
Would you please stand for a word of prayer? Let’s just seek the Lord. Me too. All of us need to get thoroughly right with the Lord. Lord, I need that. I need your direction. Lord, without you, I lose my bearing. Father, send your Spirit, drawing us and convicting us and guiding us. Lord, we lay our hearts and our tongues before you tonight. Lord, help us to get them right. Change our hearts. Lord, help us to surrender everything new and afresh to you tonight. And, Lord, we’ll thank you and brag on you for what you do. We’re asking for this, Father, in faith, because we’re asking in the name of Jesus. Amen.
Would you spend some time with the Lord as we sing? Would you do that? Keep your tongue right. In the verse, wind’s blowing, keep your tongue right. Lead in the right direction. That’s the true leader. Our tongue’s so vital, so vital. Let’s just say, “Lord, here’s my tongue.” By the way, you can bring life; people get saved—life for all eternity—by our tongues. And let’s just give our tongues to the Lord and our hearts to the Lord. Glad you’re here tonight. Thrilled every person is here. Good to have a guest slip in back there with us. Glad to have them. Thanks for being with us tonight. We appreciate that. It’s good to see everybody out on Sunday night. Mission conference is just about here, and it’s exciting. It’s awesome. We’ve got some great missionaries coming in this year; you’re going to enjoy it. Wednesday night is one more service before then—Bible study. And then Friday night, I’m excited about all that, excited to see God bless the work this year. It’s awesome. It’s awesome. Pray for Georgia Painter Wednesday morning at 8 o’clock. Be in prayer about that, if you would, please, for open-heart surgery, and for His glory, let’s keep on that for His glory. I’ve enjoyed hearing people talk about they’ve invited this person, that person, for March 19th. I’m excited about March 19th; that’s going to be a grand day. Looking forward to it, excited about what God’s going to do on that day also. Praise the Lord for Brother Trey. Man, what a blessing he’s been all these years. He really is. I appreciate his sincerity for the Lord. That’s just awesome.
Original File: Where are you steering your ship - Pastor Paul Chisgar - Sunday PM 1222023